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  Want A Good Laugh? Check this Out!

  by HiddlesWife in

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  i found this video this afternoon: .

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zucfh2g5pfk .

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  days of future passed

  What kind of man was Popeye? It starts with an S.

  Heard: Sinner!

  Lett: Stupid Sinner!

  Rutherford: Spinach eating Sinner!
  
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  Why people fall for scams, what happens after.

  by days of future passed in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i couldn't figure out where to put this, so...... after seeing the sell off the properties in england, kingdom hall grabs etc.

  i thought of the jw's that would passively go along with it.

  what will happen when they realize all of their donations, wills, loaning of money and property has simply been part of a scam?.

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  days of future passed

  I couldn't figure out where to put this, so.....

  After seeing the sell off the properties in England, kingdom hall grabs etc. I thought of the JW's that would passively go along with it. I certainly would have. What will happen when they realize all of their donations, wills, loaning of money and property has simply been part of a scam?

  I found an article on scammers and how they accomplish fooling people. This is part.

  Appeals to trust and authority: people tend to obey authorities so scammers use, and victims fall for, cues that make the offer look like a legitimate one being made by a reliable official institution or established reputable business.

  Visceral triggers: scams exploit basic human desires and needs – such as greed, fear, avoidance of physical pain, or the desire to be liked – in order to provoke intuitive reactions and reduce the motivation of people to process the content of the scam message deeply.

  Scarcity cues. Scams are often personalised to create the impression that the offer is unique to the recipient.

  Induction of behavioural commitment. Scammers ask their potential victims to make small steps of compliance to draw them in, and thereby cause victims to feel committed to continue sending money.

  The disproportionate relation between the size of the alleged reward and the cost of trying to obtain it. Scam victims are led to focus on the alleged big prize or reward in comparison to the relatively small amount of money they have to send in order to obtain their windfall.

  Lack of emotional control. Compared to non-victims, scam victims report being less able to regulate and resist emotions associated with scam offers. They seem to be unduly open to persuasion, or perhaps unduly undiscriminating about who they allow to persuade them.

  And here’s a couple of counter-intuitive kickers:

  Scam victims often have better than average background knowledge in the area of the scam content. For example, it seems that people with experience of playing legitimate prize draws and lotteries are more likely to fall for a scam in this area than people with less knowledge and experience in this field. This also applies to those with some knowledge of investments. Such knowledge can increase rather than decrease the risk of becoming a victim.

  Scam victims report that they put more cognitive effort into analysing scam content than non-victims. This contradicts the intuitive suggestion that people fall victim to scams because they invest too little cognitive energy in investigating their content, and thus overlook potential information that might betray the scam.

  This pretty much sums up the WT and it's practices. Here is the link to the article.https://mindhacks.com/2009/05/17/the-psychology-of-being-scammed/

  Surprisingly (or not) scammers are looking for those who have already been scammed. All those that were unhappy with their religion, look elsewhere and if they find the WT, they are ripe for being scammed again.

  “It’s pretty well known in the fraud world that the best list to get is the list of people who have already been taken.”

  That might suggest a genetic vulnerability to sweet talk. But it is more likely that the explanation is entirely psychological and rests on a powerful and irrational desire to believe in a special relationship with another person who wants to help you.

  Such a desire in most cases is probably rooted in early disappointment. Having faith in someone who lets you down – when you are particularly needy or inexperienced – leads to one of two likely consequences: you become cynical and mistrustful, generalizing from that experience to others, protecting yourself from being hurt again.

  Or else you deny that it has happened. That denial can stem from feeling that the person who disappointed you is too important for you to give up, like an inconsistent parent whom you still need to offer protection. So you soft-pedal your hurt, explain it away, or you refuse to remember it, preserving the offender, while also sparing yourself the embarrassment or shame of having been gullible.

  Full article https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/hidden-motives/201407/how-people-are-scammed-again-and-again

  The most vulnerable to the negative affects of finding out you've been scammed, are the older people. Suicide, depression etc.

  I guess this is why Catholics didn't leave the church when the pedophile priests were exposed. Why many JW's will be uncomfortable about the sell offs and hall closures, but deny it all has to do with being taken.
  
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  April 2018 Broadcast - normal weird stuff

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  we hear a story regarding the life of thomas and emma.

  she states that "when thomas and i first learnt that i was pregnant, we were both really shocked" she doesn't explain why they were both really shocked but it seems an odd reaction unless they were using the safest contraception invented or hadn't been told about the bird and the bees.two experiences that touched the heart of gb sanderson were as follows -.

  in russia a jw was jailed for 6 months, the jailers did everything to try to undermine his faith, which included violence.

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  So the GB are saying

  • Go to assemblies so your faith won't be shaken
  • If you can't physically be there, watch the videos - it's just like being there.
  • If others (like family) are trying to wake you up from being a witness - it's persecution and you can withstand it by watching the videos.
  • Don't let us down! Don't listen to anyone that is trying to tell you that the conduct of a few bad apples, represents the religion!
    
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  The secret fears - did you have any?

  by days of future passed in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i think many jw's have secret fears in common, but don't often voice them.

  it's too bad because then they might wonder why?.

  for instance, one day at work while i was talking to one of the witness ladies, (on her belief of some bible proof of the last days) she suddenly lowered her voice.

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  There is another fear that isn't so hidden. The Demons. If they came up in casual conversation, that wasn't too bad. But if you happened to think of them when you were alone, or at night - weren't you afraid to dwell on it? As if by thinking about them, they would be drawn to you? The Village had a scene where the lurkers of the woods, were coming into the village. Later it was mentioned that they were the ones you shouldn't speak about. This movie has many references to how a religion uses fear to keep the young people bound to "the village" The demons are also used by the WT to scare the bejesus out of people. Funny how Sophia and Caleb haven't run into any...

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbJpJBKUf4k
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  The secret fears - did you have any?

  by days of future passed in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i think many jw's have secret fears in common, but don't often voice them.

  it's too bad because then they might wonder why?.

  for instance, one day at work while i was talking to one of the witness ladies, (on her belief of some bible proof of the last days) she suddenly lowered her voice.

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  scary21 - I had such fears too. Except mine started around the age of 11. Once I got past that age, I had 1975 looming ahead. When that didn't happen, I didn't know what to do at age 20 because I should have been dead by then.

  Phoebe - Now that you've said it - fingernails being pulled out - me too!

  Purrpurr - it's terrible to imagine that as a kid. And most children don't tell their parents about those fears either so they suffer every time the subject is brought up at the meetings.

  Muddy Waters - Forgot about that one. Add another onto my list....

  Snugglebunny - Didn't have that one but the feeling of not being loved by a parent is terrible. (not that I was loved by my parents - makes it easier to shrug and walk away if it comes to that)

  Still Totally ADD - I wonder how many Witnesses actually feel like God truly loves them.
  
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  "Escaping The Watchtower" Trailer

  by Christian Gutierrez in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojqswew8pva.

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  I like your teaser and wish it was longer. Each person was sincere. Each had to face the terrible consequences that the JW religion exacts on them for leaving it or even being in it. It was also short and to the point. I'm sure your efforts will help a lot of people.
  
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  The secret fears - did you have any?

  by days of future passed in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i think many jw's have secret fears in common, but don't often voice them.

  it's too bad because then they might wonder why?.

  for instance, one day at work while i was talking to one of the witness ladies, (on her belief of some bible proof of the last days) she suddenly lowered her voice.

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  days of future passed

  I think many JW's have secret fears in common, but don't often voice them. It's too bad because then they might wonder why?

  For instance, one day at work while I was talking to one of the witness ladies, (on her belief of some bible proof of the last days) she suddenly lowered her voice. She told me of her secret fear, that during the Great Tribulation, she would make one mistake. And that one mistake would cost her the eternal life she was hoping for. A mistake such as telling where other brothers and sisters were. There wasn't any follow up such as, God would understand and forgive me - No. One mistake = gone forever. It is a reflection of how the GB have insidiously and persistently told people, they must absolutely do things right in God's eyes, or they will not make it. And even if they do, "probably" God will save you.

  And I have to admit, I've felt the same way.

  Now when I hear that, I think how awful the religion and people that really run it, are. Because while the Witness is trying their best to do things "right" lest they make a mistake on this side of armaggedon, they have also been told that Hitler has a chance to be resurrected as well as other assorted mass murderers.

  Another fear. If you listen to an Apostate, within a few words, just as if a magic spell as been cast - you will be forever lost and die forever. Even if you don't want to turn against God, you will be unable to help it.

  That is how I thought it, even tho I have a younger sister who has through the years, spouted the most crazy things about the bible. But you know, living in the Witness World allows your brain to have Multiple incompatible ideas that coexist alongside one another that make perfect sense to a witness and to no one else.

  The secret fear that even if you said you are sorry and ask for forgiveness of God, and then thinking that you've been forgiven - God really hasn't forgiven or forgotten. And come judgement day, just when you think you are safe, God will kill you forever.

  Have any more?
  
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  What Is The Most Ridiculous Thing You Have Heard From A Witness?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i remember an elder questioning a woman who had admitted to giving and receiving oral sex from her unbelieving mate.

  he asked her the most intimate questions which clearly flustered her.

  interestingly, she “confessed “ to the elders because her conscience bothered her.

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  A sister told me that since she had worn a bathing cap when she was baptized, she was afraid her head wouldn't make it into the new order.

  I said not to worry. If god can recreate a whole new body, he could certainly give you a new head. That seemed to reassure her.
  
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  Tight pants dilemma solved

  by rebel8 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the principles that we glean from god’s word should move us to avoid wearing clothing that is tight-fitting, revealing, or sexually provocative.

  that would rule out wearing clothing that exposes or accentuates private parts of our anatomy.

  nobody should feel uncomfortable or forced to look the other way when seeing how we are dressed.

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  I'd rather see this

  
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  Warwick is an ASS

  by lastmanstanding in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  google earth warwick and turn the map upside down.

  it’s as clear as a bell.. i have been looking at satellite images of assembly halls because of the one in denmark being a pagan design of an all seeing eye like on the us dollar etc.. so i said, what the hell does warwick look like from space?.

  question answered.

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  days of future passed

  Looks like a camel to me. Or this